Seixng my L046 Zebra Pleco's

Leigh Freeman · Post by **Leigh Freeman** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:09 pm

These three picture of what I think is a Male

and these three pictures I think is female

Can any one confirm the sex of them for me.

Post by **Barbie** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:01 pm

Leigh we're going to need pictures that are quite a bit bigger than that to be of much help, I think. I'm old, I can barely see the fish in those! In looking at the URL for them, you've just linked to the thumbnail. Try linking to the main, larger image.

Barbie

husky_jim · Post by **husky_jim** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:43 pm

Here your pics.I fix the link......

First three.....

Last three....

I think that both are males but i have some doubts for the second fish......

McEve · Post by **McEve** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:43 pm

I think the first one looks very macho

but debating a bit with myself on nr two. I think it might be a male also, it does have a rather broad head.... but the fins don't convince me.... I can't agree with myself on nr two

I think nr two is a female, the fins win

Btw, husky_jim - I can't see your avatar? Is it only me?

Post by **Barbie** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:50 pm

I'd say male for sure on both of them. See how the odontodes lay outside the groove that ties into their gills? While many of my females have heavy odontodal growth, none have it outside that. Sorry if that's bad news.

Barbie

McEve · Post by **McEve** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:56 pm

I was looking at that also, but this female has odontodal growth between the gills, and long ones too.

Why is it that it is the females that are so hard to identify? You can spot a macho male a mile away, but find that girl... she's got many disguises looks like

Des · Post by **Des** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:27 pm

Hi Leigh,
I would say both are males.
They are both very well fed, the second one more so.
If I were judging just on body shape ,I would have said that the second one was a female, however when you look at the male chacteristics of long cheek odontodes which protrude to nearly half the width of the pectoral fins instead of staying within the cheek groove ( as Barbie also stated) on a normal female, makes me say that this is a male too. (However it might be a female with too much testosterone !!!!)
Regards,
Des.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:19 am

I reacon both are males, although the second is slightly harder to identify due to the previous fin damage.

rob

Leigh Freeman · Post by **Leigh Freeman** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:38 pm

I have had both confirmed as males by a breeder who has a colony of 22. The two are now back with the shop after they would not let them go as two males and after threats to sued them all monies were reutned plus extra for the hassle caused.

Thanks again

Leigh Freeman

Des · Post by **Des** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:03 pm

Leigh,
Considering that all exports of L046 have now stopped, why did you not keep both or one and then try and find a female mate for the male/s?.
I Presume that the shop sold them to you as a true pair?.
Regards,
Des.

Leigh Freeman · Post by **Leigh Freeman** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:10 pm

On Saturday I completed a 408 mile round trip to two Wyevale garden centres in order to pick up 5 (3 females and 2 males) for £600. If anyone is after any here are some places that have a few left...
Wyevale @ Worthing, West sussex. Tel:- 01903 244532 ask for Marcel
Wyevale @ Worthing Findon, West sussex. Tel:- 0903 877799 ask for Matt
Wyevale @ Swansea. Tel:- 01792 774080 ask for Mark
Wildwoods @ Enfield Tel:- ??? ask for Keith

Tom2600 · Post by **Tom2600** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:50 pm

Hi,

I'm sorry to say no L046s are for sale from this guy, but I have just had a look on....

http://www.aquarist-classifieds.co.uk

.....and there are at least four new pages worth of catfish, many of them rare and at a pretty good price. Based in East Yorkshire but some of the catfish will probably be worth the travel.

Cheers

Tom

Tom2600 · Post by **Tom2600** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:22 pm

Not sure how that post got on here but I was trying to reply to Leigh.

Leigh,

How come you are so confident that you have 3 females and two males? What are the sizes and when can we see the pictures? You are a brave man to part with £600 for five zebras. I thought they would have knocked a bit off if you were buying five?

I really do wish you all the best in getting them to breed.

Cheers

Tom

Seixng my L046 Zebra Pleco's

Seixng my L046 Zebra Pleco's

Thanks to all

Got my hands on some

Loads of different catfish for sale.

Sorry wrong forum.