L46 for sale

Fishnut2 · Post by **Fishnut2** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:50 am

BUYER BEWARE!!!
Imer has been trying to sell zebra plecos on Aquabid, for about a year now! During one of my zebra fry auctions...he ran the bids up...under the username ZebraZucht. He then contacted the buyer (Reticulata) via Aquabid e-mail...and offered him a side deal. This is clearly against AB rules...and Imer is permanently suspended under his ZebraZucht name. He had several auctions under the ZebraZucht name...which never sold due to a high reserve price. I still have the e-mail saved, in case Rob wants to see it!
Shortly after that...I ran 2 charity auctions with zebra pleco fry. 1 was for Tom's Place, and the other 1 was for PlanetCatfish. Imer won BOTH of those auctions, under his new username...BregB23. This username is currently under investigation (suspended) on Aquabid! I don't have an e-mail to prove this username was Imer...BUT...BregB23 was from the same city - Frankfurt, Germany...had the same zip code...and the same server @yahoo.de.
He recently was selling under the username Amazon_Fish on Aquabid. That username has 1 positive feedback. The other names were all (0/0) feedback. I have no proof that Amazon_Fish is Imer...but I'm guessing...due to the same city/zip code/and server again.
NOW, stop and think for a minute! Why would someone with 100s of zebras for sale...have such a hard time selling them??? I get over 20 e-mails every time I list a zebra auction. Every zebra auction I had, went for more money then I expected! Why does Imer have to e-mail MY buyers, to try to sell his fish? Why did he run up the bids on my auctions...and NOT pay or answer my e-mails? Why does Imer have 4 usernames on Aquabid?
Now I haven't called him any names...or insinuated that he ripped anybody off! What I am saying is: BUYER BEWARE!!!

NeoCult · Post by **NeoCult** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:54 am

Are you sure Imer is the same guy? can you please email any proof you have to [email protected] with an explanation, as for now all i have seen is praise about Imer and his fish from people who have purchased fish from him

please dont think im taking sides as i am not, but if this is true etc proof would be nice plus if Imer is this other user or not it would be good to hear his side of the story also

Fishnut2 · Post by **Fishnut2** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:06 am

No problem Neo,
The e-mails from Imer to MY buyer have been sent to you. If you'd like to see the suspended list from AB...I can send that too! It doesn't hurt to verify things. Rob knew about this, the day it happened. He just didn't know it was Imer.

Caesars · Post by **Caesars** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:35 am

I am not quite sure ... beware of WHAT? I got fish from the guy and I found him straight and honest, the fish are fine. So did Al from here too. I know you haven't called him any names but .. what are we warned about?

May I also point out that yahoo.de is same as yahoo.uk (de standing for germany) ...

Fishnut2 · Post by **Fishnut2** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:02 am

Hi Caesars,
I did know that the de stands for Germany. But is that the ONLY server in Germany? The city/zip/and server matched the other usernames on Aquabid. His zebra pics as Bluectriscal, match the same host as the pics from Zebrazucht.
Beware of what? Beware of sending hundreds of dollars, without checking someone out. I never said he stole from anybody. Just that his activity on Aquabid was enough to get him permanently suspended (under the name Zebrazucht). I'd love to hear from Imer about this!!!

Caesars · Post by **Caesars** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:22 am

Hi there,
its the only yahoo ending, like if you are in uk you get yahoo.uk, if you are in greece you get yahoo.gr etc. I am sure there will be other internet providers in Germany, but yahoo will not have a different ending if its an account registered in Germany.

I appreciate what you are saying and I follow your advice religiously after being scammed myself. It is generally advisable to check somebody out before sending loads of cash to them. In fact, first time I bought from Imer I paid after delivery, and it was the way he went about it that impressed me. So I fully intend to do business with him again.

I am not sure about your reference to "activity". From what you say - whoever got banned did so not because he defrauded anybody but because he contacted the seller and tried to sell more fish privately, which is against AB rules. Fair enough, the rules are the rules! Having said that I don't think this reflects on someone's honesty or ability to deliver what he promises. I have no experience of Aquabid but going by my ebay experience I know that there is a similar rule just to safeguard the site's profits. Namely, if business is done "on the side" they get to lose their percentage from the sale.

If I get your drift correctly, what you are saying is that the guy is actively marketing his fish - maybe more actively than some would like him to

Fishnut2 · Post by **Fishnut2** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:43 am

LOL,
Your last sentence made me laugh,and your point is well taken! However; he never had any sales on AB. The reserve price wasn't met on all of his auctions (and there's nothing wrong with that). If he used the 3rd name I mentioned (Amazon_fish) then 1 sale was completed...and that had positive feedback.
On the activity part, I guess I didn't explain it very well. Zebrazucht ran up the bids on my auction (with him as a buyer)...and then contacted MY high bidder (buyer) to sell him fish. The auction went $1201 for 3...1" fry! I started the auction at $1...with no reserve price. That's why he was banned under the Zebrazucht username.
Actively marketing his fish like that...is definetely...more actively then I'd like him to!
BTW...the winning bidder flew in from Oregon (I'm in Chicago) and paid the $1201 for 3 fry. I doubled his order to 6 fry, since I had a few more available. Imer actually did me a favor. BUT... it wasn't fair to the buyer.

Caesars · Post by **Caesars** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:25 am

Don't get me wrong - I am not disagreeing with the point. I was just trying to clarify the point so we all understand what it is we are talking about. I think from the original statement all sorts of things could have been understood. And of course, as neo said, we have still to hear Imer's point, supposing its the same guy.

bluectriscal · Post by **bluectriscal** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:07 am

Hello Fishnut2, Hello All,

I has deceived nobody, taken out of the piss, other account or himself handed in positive assessment co-demanded.I don't understand the problem.

If I swindler last, I would have required only money and never reported again . but I want nobody money without performance from this take bag away.

FISHNET2 if you want L46 you can get of me.But no 1 cm, special as of 4 cm.

BregB23

Best Regards
Imer

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:06 am

Purely For Information.

It has come to the Zebrapleco.com Team's attention that Bluetriscal is the same individual as Banned User Zebrazucht on Aquabid.com.

Whilst his banning was for actions that were undoubtedly un-ethical and unnacceptable, I must take an unbiased view.

This Message is not provided to discredit Bluetriscal, or disencourage individuals from buying fish from him, but to clear up previous queries and discussions.

I will not allow such behaiour on this site, and feel Aquabid are correct in banning Zebrazucht. That said, Bluetriscal has delivered a good service to date for our members, but this does highlight the point that we must be very aware of who we are buying from.

If Bluetriscal discredits the site or it's members in a manner similar to the actions carried out on Aquabid, he will be banned.

Please treat this Post as Informative Only and not as an Opinion. Imer has, to date kept his promise of delivering the fish, I woudl however be grateful if any problems are e-mailed to myself if they occur.

Ceasars, Alevans, everyone who has a good experience, thank you for your input. Fishnut2, thank you also for bringing this to our attention, it is really appreciated.

Thank you, this post is now locked.

Rob

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:39 pm

This Post has now been unlocked.

NeoCult · Post by **NeoCult** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:16 pm

Lets be fair here

Imer has already sold to at least 2 people on the site with no problem

lets not victimise him or blame him for another persons mistakes

i personally am getting some fish from Imer as i do trust him and him me

please do not let this put anyone off gettin his fish

IMO he is 100% trustworthy

I do not see any need to delete his posts or ban him

End off!

Post by **Jools** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:42 pm

bluectriscal wrote:thanks for Positive Feedback and trust. imer

Imer,

Are you the same person as was registered as zebrazucht?

Jools

Caesars · Post by **Caesars** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:58 pm

Jools, I have asked Imer the same question and he said zebrazucht is his brother. He doesn't know who BregB23 is. Hope that helps.

Sven T. · Post by **Sven T.** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:44 pm

Hi,

let me say some words to this topic:

In the biggest German forums Imer is well known and also banned from those forums. The reason why is locked is that he has several accounts there and he said positive things about himself and thing about identification of some plecos he wanted to sell.

As he was asked after his breeding tanks, he stole pictures and showed them ... bad for him that he stole the pictures of a forum member.

After all this thing he was banned there! If someone wants to see details go to www.l-welse.com (German Forum) and search for "Gold_dia", "Gold_wels" oder "Zebrazucht".

After I posted these things on www.l-welse.com he immediate called me (He got my number from my Homepage) and tried to tell me stories that weren't true. All members (or the most) of l-welse.com would even think about buying something from him.

This is what I can say about this guy - it's up to you to decide whether to deal with him or not!

Sven