Pseudacanthicus Sp???..or a hypancistrus species??..

sharko · Post by **sharko** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:51 am

This one was for sale at my LFS, as Pseudacanthicus Sp...
After some studying i get a feeling this is a Hypancistrus species...
Anyone with some ideas...

McEve · Post by **McEve** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:54 pm

It doesn't look like a Hypancistrus to me, the fish is too flat, and the fins too "pointy", the tail isn't right either...

Ps, where's your avatar hiding!

sharko · Post by **sharko** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:01 pm

Some have said it is a Hypancistrus L201...

Was able to sex them the same way we sex the zebra, growth on the pectoral fins and on the side...one with a lot of growth and one with almost nothing...

So..i am a little lost...

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PS!
My avatar refuse to show itself after it has been uploaded for some reason...

jeroentje · Post by **jeroentje** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:14 am

yes, It's a L201 I think

Caesars · Post by **Caesars** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:19 am

I can't see the pictures very well .. and the commonality of the pattern is rather confusing, but as you have seen the fish does it look anything like this?

sharko · Post by **sharko** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:57 am

I would say it is a good likeness

To bad I could not get a better picture, but will see if I can get a better pic soon.

Have noticed that the spots are not completely white, but maybe a tag yellow (or just appear to be so due to the Lightning tubes)

I bought this on Wedensday, so it might be still slightly stressed.

Caesars · Post by **Caesars** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:20 am

Well the fish above was sold to me as an LDA33 - got 3 of them. The reason I thought of this is the ventral view of your fish, looks very similar to mine. If that is the case I would say your fish is more of a Baryancistrus species - but lets wait and see the new pics. How big is the fish?

sharko · Post by **sharko** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:52 am

The importer thinks this came from a shipment from Colombia..if that helps.
The spots are not completely white or yellow, but somewhere in between, which is consistent with the fact that the colour changes with age if it is LDA 33...

How about L254?

sharko · Post by **sharko** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:05 am

Here are the new pics:)

They are in the size 6-8 cm long

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McEve · Post by **McEve** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:19 am

I don't think it's a Baryancistrus either. It's too pointy in the nose. I'm not helping here am I

Sorry about that....

BTW I've had LDA33 of the same size, one with yellow spots and one with clear white, so I'm not sure it's a sign of maturity? These two were only 7-8 cm large, so only babies both of them..

sharko · Post by **sharko** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:21 pm

Do you have a pic of the mouth?

Caesars wrote:Well the fish above was sold to me as an LDA33 - got 3 of them. The reason I thought of this is the ventral view of your fish, looks very similar to mine. If that is the case I would say your fish is more of a Baryancistrus species - but lets wait and see the new pics. How big is the fish?

Caesars · Post by **Caesars** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:34 pm

No but I can try take one. One thing I noticed is the mouth of mine has four, very clearly defined, rasping plates. Two up two down. You can't miss them if you want to. I can't see those on yours. Also McEve is right, the nose is too pointed so it looks like we should be excluding LDA33 ... if we go like this we will get there in the end.

Edit: However, while browsing for something else, I came across this: http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/lo ... 198_1.PHP- see also http://l-welse.com/forum/articles.php?a ... e&artid=88. On the planetcatfish image and on aqualogue the shape of the fish and the pointed nose are identical to yours. But have a look about the teeth and other details ....

sharko · Post by **sharko** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:45 pm

Caesars wrote:One thing I noticed is the mouth of mine has four, very clearly defined, rasping plates. Two up two down. You can't miss them if you want to. I can't see those on yours. Also McEve is right, the nose is too pointed so it looks like we should be excluding LDA33 ... if we go like this we will get there in the end. ....

The LDA33 have four rasping plates, mine does not.
There is a pic of the mouth of L86 in the latest Aqualog, and the only difference is that the mouth in the book is a bit pointed, and mine is more rounded...

The colour of the eyes seems to be identical, if i am comparing the pic of L86 on planet catfish with a eye pic of mine though...

One step closer

Caesars · Post by **Caesars** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:23 pm

sharko wrote:There is a pic of the mouth of L86 in the latest Aqualog, and the only difference is that the mouth in the book is a bit pointed, and mine is more rounded...

The colour of the eyes seems to be identical, if i am comparing the pic of L86 on planet catfish with a eye pic of mine though...

One step closer

We will get there in the end...

if yours is rounder, check also the L82 - which is more rounded on the nose. Have you managed to see what its "teeth" / rasping plates look like? That usually is a good indication. If you get a chance can you get a couple of clear pictures of yours, dorsal view? But the head must show .. I got an idea

sharko · Post by **sharko** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:12 am

In the post on planetcatfish and GOC, Yann and Janne thinks this is Hypancistrus Sp 201.
Reason : The bodyshape is similar, and they are also exported often as L007 and L240 as the wholesale dealer view them as young edtion of galaxias.
I wonder if anyone could confirm this?

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/lo ... 1797_F.PHP
or
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/lo ... /911_F.PHP

In the tank above in the shop there was indeed some galaxias.

Pseudacanthicus Sp???..or a hypancistrus species??..

Pseudacanthicus Sp???..or a hypancistrus species??..

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