Sex These Please

NeoCult · Post by **NeoCult** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:23 pm

sorry McEve didnt mean to defend as much as i did lol and i know you your not attacking us

and yeah i agree some of the fish do look a bit worse for ware so to speak but hopefully they will all get better soon

McEve · Post by **McEve** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:26 pm

I have no doubt that the fish will show it's best potential after only a short time in your and Andrews care

Didn't mean to sound negative, sorry.

Andrew C · Post by **Andrew C** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:27 pm

Thanks for the concern, was rushing when i was posting and forgot to say about the particle on the females fin.
I only took a few pictures over 60 seconds as i was desperate to get them drip acclimatised and into the their tank, they never moved while taking the pictures.

I'll get a breeding trap and try to get some better pictures of them latter.

McEve · Post by **McEve** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:34 pm

Glad to hear it was only the picture. It looked a lot like the damage we've seen several times in the Help-section...

Happy the fish is good, and good luck with them! maybe they'll be eiser to sex after you guys has had them in your care for fattening up and general TLC recieved as well

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:37 pm

Hi Neo

The big "male" i.e. no. 3 has by the looks of it been subject to a bit of a beating. You can see that the pelvic fins are irregularly shaped, these often appear after th fish has had some pretty major fin damage.

The smaller pectorial fin could be a defect but due tothe damage on teh pelvic fins, my guess would also be recovering from a bti of a beating.

I shoudl imagine however that a good feed and the company of some lovely ladies will get him on his way.

Still think No 1. is a possible female!!

NeoCult · Post by **NeoCult** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:55 pm

well hes assured a good home now and i hope he comes on in leaps n bounds little wedge head he is

a brreding trio im collecting soon so lets hope the females are females etc

Rob these discus how soon can u take em?

Andrew C · Post by **Andrew C** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:01 pm

Sorry McEve, for not saying about the debris on the fishes fin, i did mean to, it just slipped my mind when posting.

Here is some better pictures to check the sexing of the three i got;

Male A1

Male A2

Male A3

Female A1

Female A2

Female A3

Female B1

Female B2

Female B3

McEve · Post by **McEve** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:37 pm

No problem Andrew, just made me jump... I'm glad to see that it does indeed have healthy and nice fins

Have you resized the pictures? The males are easy, but I can't take a guess at the others, as there too little details.... The hardest ones to sex are young females and subdominant males IMO

Even so, I do think B looks like a female.

If the originals have a much higher resolution I'd be happy to have a look at them and post them here as "closeups of interesting parts of the female"

NeoCult · Post by **NeoCult** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:02 am

McEve download these two pics of Zeb 1 and let me know if u still think its a male please

http://aquaauction.co.uk/zeb.jpg

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http://aquaauction.co.uk/zeb1.jpg

McEve · Post by **McEve** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:54 am

Hi neo,

Your Zebra shows typical male odontodal growth on both the pectoral fins, and also on the body. But the interopucular odontodal growth is typical of a female.

The fish has a slight bumb on the right side just behind the pectoral fin, which might indicate that it is a female with eggs, but the general shape of the body looks more like a male. Shape of the head looks female too. How large is it? If the fish is more than 7cm I'll lean towards female.

I don't know

It's going to be very exciting to see what it turns out that it really is!

NeoCult · Post by **NeoCult** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:24 am

Hi McEve yeah its at least 7cm of just over

Andrew C · Post by **Andrew C** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:27 pm

Hello McEve.
Put the unsized photos up on Imageshack and have put links to the them, as they are too big for posting.
Never used Adobe Photoshop on them, so hopefully they're not too dark, as i did brighten the previous photos a bit.

The male is around 3.5 inchs in length, while the other two that i think are females, are around 2.5 inches in length.
But i am no expert on this, just picked up bits through this forum

Female A1
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/3250 ... ea19in.jpg

Female A2
http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/9154 ... ea25gb.jpg

Female A3
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5906 ... ea39sv.jpg

Female B3
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/282/ ... eb37gc.jpg

Female B2
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2978 ... eb26xy.jpg

Female B1
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1636 ... eb17sy.jpg

From the whiskers and the hairs on the front edge of its two fins, Female A looks like a young male to me ?

Plastic Mac · Post by **Plastic Mac** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:05 pm

Hi Andrew C,

I'm of the same opinion, first looks like a male...second looks like female.

Plastic Mac

McEve · Post by **McEve** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:57 pm

I think A is young male, but they are very hard to sex at that age. It might turn out to be a hairy lady. But for now, I'm guessing A as a young male, and B as a female.

But give it time, you don't know for sure until they spawn! Or rather, dominant males aren't very difficult to identify

It's the other ones that is tricky

Andrew C · Post by **Andrew C** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:39 pm

McEve wrote:It might turn out to be a hairy lady

Great stuff McEve