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				first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:24 pm
				by mikeyboy
				
  
  
 first spawn for me only had 3 zebs all @ 5.5cm  1 male 2 female 
3 eggs out side (dead) and male sitting on 7 from what i can see .
iv just moved cave into floating hatchery as iv just put in two 7cm zebs i bort  2day and dont want them to upset him ?????
dont no if iv done right or not?  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:41 am
				by TwoTankAmin
				Congrats on the first spawn.
Its probably a good idea to put the dad and cave in a safe place. Once you start to get beyond a pair or trio and into groups/colonies, you get into pecking orders. And it can often mean a few months of fighting before they work out the pecking order. Sometimes this can even result in death but normally is more likely to result in non fatal injuries. Be sure you have lots of places the fish can hide if need be. More caves than males for sure is a good idea.
I was looking at the pics of the new ones and although I am a very poor sexer, I think you have a fm in the top pic and a male in the bottom. However, do not trust my opinion but seek other's advice. Since you now have spawning started, which is the hardest part, the fish should continue spawning. However, by introducing additional fish you may actually put a halt to that until they work things out. You may want to consider putting the new ones into their own tank.
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:38 am
				by John
				Congrats, try not to disturb the dad for a few days now untill the eggs hatched, putting a towel over the area where the floater is to darken the area works well, good luck.
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:58 pm
				by Joby
				Congrats on your first spawn  

 Hope you have wrigglers soon  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:06 pm
				by jerry58
				Hi mikeyboy 
Well done on the spawn  
 
Jerry
 
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:51 pm
				by mikeyboy
				
 just an update male has kicked 7 dead eggs out up to now ,they r formed with big egg sacks think there r 3-4 left 
 
ill keep u up to date
 
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:36 pm
				by Stevie.K
				Hi Mikey, congrats on your spawn getting your first spawn is the biggest achievement so well done.
Sorry for your losses 
 
Have you checked your params? Are your nitrates high above 20 ppm?
This is the biggest killer for fry.
Search wrigglers in cave, one of my first posts when my zebs started breeding & this may be a help to you bud.
Keep us posted. 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:43 am
				by mikeyboy
				will do stevie
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:31 pm
				by mikeyboy
				hi all i think male killed all his wrigglers  
 
checked params all ok 
dont no what to say am gutted 
  
 
mybe it was the introduction of new larger zebs
and i must admit a bit of flashing with torch could,nt help myself 
next time lights of and wait ten days before i look again.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:05 pm
				by Stevie.K
				Sorry to hear that, If you moved dad I don't think introducing the new fish have caused this, there may have been something wrong with the fry or just his inexperience.
But as TTA & John say I agree & say get the other fish out as you may halt any more spawns you may have. 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:16 pm
				by Joby
				Sorry to hear they are gone  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:02 am
				by mikeyboy
				stevie k how long b4 they will spawn again  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:21 am
				by Stevie.K
				Theres no gaurantee they will straight away, but it would generally be 4-6 weeks. 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:05 pm
				by mikeyboy
				cheers  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: first spawn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
				Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:07 pm
				by mikeyboy
				hi guys here is a pic i got of 1 of the spawn u can see at what stage they were !
can anyone say how old they were?