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40 Zebra Plecs - Is this a good offer?

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:17 pm
by I_Need_Zebras
Is this a good price for 18month old zebra's, sent the following quote from a German Seller on AquaBid.

I need about 40 fish for a breeding project, but need adultish fish not fry to start the project more or less straight away.

I have money set aside from a lottery grant, but just need the fish now, anyone here in the UK has this volume of fish on offer?
Hi,

my offer to you: 40pcs L46 5.00 - 6.50cm for 19500USD incl shipping.

or

this two auctions for 17350USD incl shipping

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/ ... 1204167003
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/ ... 1204166402

Hi

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:19 pm
by dave
I have a feeling that the vendor is Imer.

If this is the case then there are plenty of posts regarding this guy on this site, so a search on this site and make up your own mind.

From what I recall he is not allowed to post on this site due to a number of problems arising.

Take care

Dave

Re: 40 Zebra Plecs - Is this a good offer?

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:21 pm
by John
I_Need_Zebras wrote:Is this a good price for 18month old zebra's
The answer to me is simple: no, price is way to high

If you travel to germany yourself you can buy them for max. 10.000 dollar, probably a lot less if you buy this quantity.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:24 pm
by John
Your feeling is right dave :wink:

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:45 pm
by I_Need_Zebras
Hi John, can you forward on any details of our German friends that maybe able to sell to us.

Also thank you Dave for your information, have done a quick search and will avoid this seller.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:46 pm
by I_Need_Zebras
If I travel to Germany, would there not be a problem with customs etc transposrting live animals, unsure about import / export rules and regulations in Europe of live goods.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:48 pm
by I_Need_Zebras
The german seller from aquabid, goes by the name Kado, is this the same person as Imer but an alias

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:10 pm
by Rob
Just a guess, but judging by the address location I would say it is probably Imer, and the price is way to high. That is basically £250 per fish, all of which will be about 18 months old. If you look hard anough you could pick up fully grown adults fro less than that.

Rob

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:13 pm
by John
Just a guess, his e-mail adress is [email protected] :lol:

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:40 pm
by I_Need_Zebras
Yes that is his email address, but then saying that I just received another email, this time from Imer.
Hi,

i wait your final order or you can buy over www.aquabid.com

Best Regards
imer

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:59 pm
by Rob
Hi

Do a search on the site for "Imer and then "bluetriscal". Whilst we cannot influence and individual not to buy, or to buy, from a seller, we can point them in the direction of all the information. Some people have had positive experiences with Imer and others have had very negative experiences.

Personally I would wait and keep looking.

Rob

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:52 pm
by Jo's Zebs
I_Need_Zebras wrote:If I travel to Germany, would there not be a problem with customs etc transposrting live animals, unsure about import / export rules and regulations in Europe of live goods.
Contact DEFRA they will give you all the paperwork you will need to make the import legal

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:04 am
by I_Need_Zebras
Looking at this link http://www.efishbusiness.co.uk/importinside/part01.asp

Taken from a link on the DEFRA website, point (5) states that no import restrictions apply.

So does that mean theres no quarantine times etc?

Has anyone here tansported or received fish from another country, if so surely its not as simple as payong your money and awaiting delivery, there must be some sort of checks etc for "rabbies" or other "dieases".

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:36 pm
by Jo's Zebs
I think L046 or tropical fish they pose very little threat to our natural wildlife they just would not survive outside of the aquarium so maybe this is why there are little restrictions although I did think you needed a import licence think its £12 or £14 a year I maybe wrong as this did apply 5 years ago but maybe not now.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:52 pm
by smithrc
Have you contacted AndyAps?

http://www.zebrapleco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4548

That group would be a very good start ;)

I've got to ask - what the story behind this? Lottery grant to buy fish???