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Another injury

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:10 pm
by McEve
suggestions?

The wound is two days old, and look slightly better. The protruding part looks smaller, but still hard to tell for sure.

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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:42 pm
by alga
McEve, what is the injury from, fighting? How large is the fish in the photo? Do you know the sex? Just in front of the dorsal seems to be where a male positions himself on the female during courtship.

Keep an eye on it and if it gets worse dilute ioding treatment directly to the fish sometimes does the trick.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:57 pm
by McEve
Hi alga!

I don't know what caused it, probably a fight as the whole group has recently been reallocated. It's a close to fully grown female.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:23 pm
by Rob
Thats a nasty one. :x

I think you are probably right about the territorial thing. Does there appear to be any fungal growth at all?
rob

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:39 pm
by McEve
No, there doesn't seem to be any fungi growing on it.

It actually looks a lot worse in the picture than real life, but I guess that only goes to prove the value of taking a picture.

The protruding part seemed larger and more to the right side when I first noticed it two days ago. I'm not sure if that indicates healing or not but.

It's not pretty... no... :(

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I don't know if this pic gives any more info. I can catch her, but are holding back as I don't want to stress her if I don't have to.

She's moving around in the tank.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:43 pm
by INXS
The iodine thing has always helped me in the past with injuries.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:53 pm
by Adam
Rehousing the group recently is the likely cause of the injury, there's likely to be a bit of infighting until things settle down.

Personally I think the fish should be ok providing a secondary infection doesn't set in but as you say the wound is still clean at the moment.

In a few days the redness of the wound should start to disapper as it begins to heal. If there is no improvement or you notice that it gets worse I would do as INXS has suggested.

I'm sure she will be ok. :wink:

Adam

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:53 pm
by McEve
Thanks all for your help. I'll keep a close eye on her :) If need be I have to find the correct term for iodine in Norwegain...

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:59 am
by INXS
jod - det ar pa svenska i alla fall. Kanske iodinlosning?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:37 am
by Adam
Yep, I was wondering about that too INXS. :wink:

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:11 pm
by McEve
I see you speak Swedish INXS :D Jod would probably be the right term here. That so dark red that it's almost black, and sting like h*** when applied? I remember we used it on horses...

She's not as red around the wound anymore, but now there's fungus on it. My eSHa better arrive soon...

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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:51 pm
by McEve
24 hours later the red area has disappeared, but it's creeping up the first spine on her dorsal fin.

This is how she looks like after iodine treatment:

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I'm worried about her (hmmm... him...? I never noticed how much odontodes the fish has before taking close up pics...) now. I'm unsure if I should have diluted the iodine? She moves around but doesn't look happy.

Should I repeat the treatment? And should I dilute the iodine?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:21 pm
by McEve
now 4 hours later it looks better..... maybe there's hope for the wound to heal?

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:40 am
by hamish99
I have a local fish group here in Inverness and the advice I got from the fish vet was to use malachite green for fungal infections and believe it or not to use mouth ulcer treatment with ADCORTYL on open wounds and infected areas as it contains an antibacterial antiseptic agent and will create a water resistant barrier over the wound.

http://www.fishdoc.co.uk/treatments/malachite.htm

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:35 pm
by McEve
I lost her. I probably started the treatment too late :(