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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:05 am
by andrewcoxon
i dont know what it is and its killing me.....
the one that got evicted died yesterday afternoon and this morning there are no more babies in the males cave so i assume they died and he ate them....
im at a total loss.... someone plz help me!!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:27 am
by John
Andrew,
Relax, take a deap breath and put your expectations at 0%
They are new to each other and probably those were their first spawns, give it time and i am sure it will work out fine.
IMO you expect to much to fast, don't try to fix things that aren't broken or you might end up with nothing at all.
Good luck and cheer up mate.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:30 am
by andrewcoxon
thanks for your adivce john....
i see what you are saying but i dont believe 2 spawns ending up totally dead can be put down to weak first spawns....? the 1st one perhaps but its twice now.... am i just stressing or is there something in the water which is killing the fry but doesnt effect the older fish? i cant help thinking my 0 kh is to blame?
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:37 pm
by sam
Do you know how old the parents are? I was wondering if they are still too young. The parents of my first spawn are at least 3 to 4 years old ,
maybe that makes a diffrence. Im sure it will work its self out in the end
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:46 pm
by andrewcoxon
i dont know how old the parents are...

but if the eggs hatch then im not sure how its the parents fault, the first batch i hatched in a breeder.
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:50 pm
by John
I've heard of those things happening before, some batches give problems and just won't make it, sometimes even after a few weeks after hatching.
And then the next batch WITHOUT altering waterparameters comes through perfectly allright
Maybe anybody here can share experiences like that

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:13 pm
by andrewcoxon
well its been 2 weeks since the last spawn and she's trapped in a cave again! at least she's regular!! im not at home at the time of writing this but iv been told that she's in the other males cave so hopefully she will spawn with a different male and il get better results!! il know when i get home tomorrow.
3rd time lucky i hope!

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:13 am
by John
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:27 am
by discusbabe
Fingers crossed!!!!
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:43 am
by sam
3rd time lucky

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:52 am
by andrewcoxon
well she's still in there and i can confirm that she's with my other male fish, so hopefully the change will do the babies good!
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:54 pm
by hamish99
hey andrew, i had 5 or 6 spawns on the trot that died, you just got to let them get on with it, i was going to give up then the next spawn i got this

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:14 am
by discusbabe
Fantastic pic Hamish!
How are they doing Andrew?
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:25 am
by smithrc
andrew... I might give you a call over the weekend - we can compare notes...
we have 2 fry from our first spawn of 14 - none from the 2nd as the eggs didn't make it...
You are not alone

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:24 pm
by andrewcoxon
no worries dude, i was just wondering how your 2nd spawn was going!
and thanks hamish, great picture! that really makes me want to keep trying!!!
as for an update.... she came out the cave at lights out on monday and i actually watched her trying to wresstle her way back into the cave but he wouldnt let her.....! i took a look in the morning and they we'rnt any eggs. the last few days she's been staying out the way of the caves....
dont know whats going on! lol