Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:51 pm
like I said I didn't mean to start a hornest nest but I was just relaying the thoughts of a few of the people that I talk to and I was curious to the answer....
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Ok, i dont like getting in the middle of bickering, cause I'm one of thosedave wrote:Well Madmorrocan answering your question.
Different people have different approaches to this fish in particular, and the extremes are totally commercial or just for love, and there are many points inbetween.
The ideal being getting this fish back to pre-ban prices and also supplying good quality fish.
To do this, you are dealing with the different approaches mentioned above, it could be cash, cash + fish, so to acquire the WC sitting in peoples tanks a flexible approach is required. I have no doubt that acquiring these fish will benefit the captive breeding population.
Individual circumstances also dictate what individuals can do. The whole is greater than any individual no matter who it is.
Anybody who keeps this fish should try and breed it and their contribution is as valuable as anybody elses.
If breeding related fish, then every effort should be made to exchange to introduce new blood or if people are lucky enough to be in posession of WC keep a record of which young are related.
As to cash value, I'll pay what I need to. As to my selling price, no doubt I will get complaints if it is unreasonable. I will say though that cash is not the determining factor, it is more who it is.
I also would much rather exchange, hopefully this will happen more frequently once people start taking my fish and a degree of trust is built up.
Dave
First of all Dave i take offence at this. i started the recent Vote thread and to be honest your the reason i did! Since your first post on this site you have done nothing but disagree with 90% of poeple on here, cause ill feeling and bad vibes and massage your own ego.I agree, and as pretty as the fish is, people should get some experience with other fish first.
Unfortunately climbimg up aquarank seems to be this sites priority at the moment ( Judging by the number of posts ). I'm not sure how this benefits the fish, perhaps somebody could explain, there is already an interest in this fish, no need to generate more.
As a fairly new person to this site. I can tell you what goes on hereAndyAps.com wrote:DAVE Wrote:First of all Dave i take offence at this. i started the recent Vote thread and to be honest your the reason i did! Since your first post on this site you have done nothing but disagree with 90% of poeple on here, cause ill feeling and bad vibes and massage your own ego.I agree, and as pretty as the fish is, people should get some experience with other fish first.
Unfortunately climbimg up aquarank seems to be this sites priority at the moment ( Judging by the number of posts ). I'm not sure how this benefits the fish, perhaps somebody could explain, there is already an interest in this fish, no need to generate more.
Yes you are trying to do alot for Zebra conservastion which i commend and agree with.
However i do not agree with looking down your nose at the people who for one reason or another, are not, can not, or are and don't wish to brag about it.
you don't seem to think gaining new members is important to gain new knowledge is this because you know everything already? you dont feel boosting the moral of members by creating a short term single goal for all to focus on is important? (not to take focus away from the fish but as a little fun and moral booster). which is a good thing, because they will read your post and see how darn fantastic you are!!
I dont post very often but read a heck of alot of posts and have an 18 strong colony of WC zebra's so this isnt a post from an angry/jealous non keeper.
Maybe you should review you manner a little as i feel this is why your exchange programmes etc arent taking off, not because people think they are a bad idea ( on the contrary, the idea came about long ago and people were enthusiastic) but because people dont really like the idea of dealing with an arrogant egotistical biggot.
sorry but i feel its prob what everyone is thinking but doesnt want to say incase of repercussion.
Hi Barbie, i just felt to need to reply to you as well, and I appreciateBarbie wrote:Don't worry, you didn't kick the hornets nest and maybe getting some of this aired out will settle things down. We have a few members with very differing views that obviously have no intention of "getting along". That doesn't mean you need to take it to heart because you posted a question that then got tied to a runaway horse.
Quite a few of us miss the days where people on the site genuinely wanted to help each other and not spend so much time looking over the neighbors fence to judge him. It would be great to see people going back to the attitude in that thread, IMO.
Barbie