Any have shrimps with their breeding zebras?
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Any have shrimps with their breeding zebras?
I'm setting up a 20 gallon long tank with black sand substrate. I want the color to stand out on the zebras and the cherry shrimps. I was planning to combine my shrimp tank (RCS, Amano, Bamboo, & Otocinclus) along with my zebra tank, since it will be sort of a "show tank".
How many of you have allot of shrimps along with your zebras? I have about 12 RCS (Red Cherry Shrimp) and getting about 20 more, 5 amano shrimp, 3 un ID'd algae eating shrimp, 3 bamboo shrimp, and about 12 otos. I'm just worried this might be too much ground activity for the zebras. The only ones I can see multiplying are the RCS and will probably overrun the tank, but I will eventually move some of the RCSs back into the 20 gallon.
Does you guys thing this combo will cause a problem for the zebras?
Do any of you keep shrimp along with breeding zebras?
How many of you have allot of shrimps along with your zebras? I have about 12 RCS (Red Cherry Shrimp) and getting about 20 more, 5 amano shrimp, 3 un ID'd algae eating shrimp, 3 bamboo shrimp, and about 12 otos. I'm just worried this might be too much ground activity for the zebras. The only ones I can see multiplying are the RCS and will probably overrun the tank, but I will eventually move some of the RCSs back into the 20 gallon.
Does you guys thing this combo will cause a problem for the zebras?
Do any of you keep shrimp along with breeding zebras?
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Hi Ed,
I have amano shrimps... Just not in my zeb tank. I remember researching the same thing when I first joined the forum and found that amano shrimp are not suitable for breeding setups because they can and will eat eggs. Cherry shrimp are ok as they are not too boistrous.
I have amano shrimps... Just not in my zeb tank. I remember researching the same thing when I first joined the forum and found that amano shrimp are not suitable for breeding setups because they can and will eat eggs. Cherry shrimp are ok as they are not too boistrous.
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Too bad about the amanos. I was hoping to move all the shrimps into the same tanks and eventually breed the amanos, since the 2 of the amanos I recently bought have eggs. I guess I might have to move them into my 125 and hope they don't become an expensive fish meal, which I'm assuming they will not be since the amanos are fairly large enough.
Regarding the current, they should be fine. The shrimp tank (20 gallon high @24"x12"x16") has a Marineland Emperor 280 (rated for 50 gallon tank), with a turnover rate of 280 GPH. The tank I plan to move them in (20 gallon long @30"x12"x12") will have a Eheim Ecco 2234 (rated for 60 gallon tank), with a turnover rate of only 160 GPH, but in a river setup. The RCS seem to be doing fine in the 20 gallon high tank and I'm assuming they would be fine in the 20 gallon long.
Regarding the current, they should be fine. The shrimp tank (20 gallon high @24"x12"x16") has a Marineland Emperor 280 (rated for 50 gallon tank), with a turnover rate of 280 GPH. The tank I plan to move them in (20 gallon long @30"x12"x12") will have a Eheim Ecco 2234 (rated for 60 gallon tank), with a turnover rate of only 160 GPH, but in a river setup. The RCS seem to be doing fine in the 20 gallon high tank and I'm assuming they would be fine in the 20 gallon long.
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Take a look at this...
http://www.zebrapleco.com/forum/viewtop ... shrimp+egg
That post highlights the dangers of keeping amano shrimp with your breeding stock.
http://www.zebrapleco.com/forum/viewtop ... shrimp+egg
That post highlights the dangers of keeping amano shrimp with your breeding stock.
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Thanks for the link. I have decided to remove all the amano and bamboo shrimp out of the tank, since they were taking over the zebra caves. I took out most of the cherry shrimps also, but just left a few in the tank for minor algae cleanup, if any. I also left otocinclus in there as well to keep as sort of "dither" fish. The tank looks rather empty now, since I started up another shrimp tank and also moved most of the plants there.
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I thought it was a bummer... I have 5 amanos myself.
Although I do think that it is upto each individual what they choose to keep in their tank... So what Smith says is also valid as they can't kill post yolk sac fry.
How old are your zebs anyway?
Although I do think that it is upto each individual what they choose to keep in their tank... So what Smith says is also valid as they can't kill post yolk sac fry.
How old are your zebs anyway?
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Mine are still juveniles. The largest about 1.75", the other about 1" or so. I have a few shrimps, about the size of amanos, but still no ID what they are. They are not amanos, but they are nocturnal shrimp, since they seem to like to keep in the dark, which is why they started taking over the caves.
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I changed the setup, as I described in my other post here...
http://www.zebrapleco.com/forum/viewtop ... 2&start=15
I plan to go back to the river setup when the zebras get bigger and eventually move them into a 40 gallon breeder.
http://www.zebrapleco.com/forum/viewtop ... 2&start=15
I plan to go back to the river setup when the zebras get bigger and eventually move them into a 40 gallon breeder.
If the eggs end up out in the open - of course they will get eaten.
Even the most docile of tetras will take advantage of a situation
They wont however raid a cave to get at them...
Even the most docile of tetras will take advantage of a situation
They wont however raid a cave to get at them...
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No disrespect intended Smith... I promise. And I do agree that they won't go into a cave to fetch eggs.madmoroccan wrote:...So what Smith says is also valid as they can't kill post yolk sac fry...
What concerns me is what if an inexperienced father kicks the eggs out and the shrimps get to them before I get home? That is a long way away for me but I can always plan ahead... I hate rehoming fish that I grow attached to.
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IME amano shrimp will pick up eggs and clean them of dirt and fungus.
They will also eat eggs that are unfertile.
I use them with killifish eggs all the time and never seen them eat a fertile egg.
I have seen them eat unfertile bristlenose eggs but not fertile one's.
But when it comes to the wee zebs, i dont think it's worth the risk.
They will also eat eggs that are unfertile.
I use them with killifish eggs all the time and never seen them eat a fertile egg.
I have seen them eat unfertile bristlenose eggs but not fertile one's.
But when it comes to the wee zebs, i dont think it's worth the risk.