L129 - Columbian Zebras (Hypancistrus sp)

If you've got a breeding project on at the moment, (preferably fish related), let us know and you might even get added to the spawn list..whe....hey!

Post Reply
smithrc
Moderator
Posts: 862
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Contact:

L129 - Columbian Zebras (Hypancistrus sp)

Post by smithrc »

Hi folks -

We bougt a group of 5 L129s this time last year, we have fed them well and following on from the sexing topic it looks like 2 females 1 male and 2 undecideds...

The leaving the to it approach hasn't worked up to now, so its time to put the effort in :oops:

Last weekend I raised the temp to about 29ºc. They have been out and about loads more - its been great :)

Mid week I added 4 move 'caves' (to the 3 already in there) 2 of them are now in caves :)

Last night I did a 25% RO change.

What else can I do to help them along? feeding program?
Click For Our Plecs
[url=http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/gallery/plecs][img]http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/assorted/PlecSig_sm.jpg[/img][/url]
User avatar
Artic circle
Groupie
Posts: 64
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:21 pm
Location: Finland
Contact:

Post by Artic circle »

Hi smithrc!

If you have breeding ready feamales, continuing Ro-water changes will get them spawn soon or a later. I think that you can raise the tempetature to 30.

Temperature can drop after the water changes 30 to 26 i think that will also work.

I have done Ro-tap water changes every other days when i will them spawn, this works with L-66 and L-46, L-46 has spawn once this week and another is now starting :)

Pasi
smithrc
Moderator
Posts: 862
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Contact:

Post by smithrc »

cool - I might have to set up the RO unit then - I'm buying it at the moment.

I'm pretty sure one of the females if egg laden - the male now has is own cave too (he was in a tunnel before)
Click For Our Plecs
[url=http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/gallery/plecs][img]http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/assorted/PlecSig_sm.jpg[/img][/url]
User avatar
Artic circle
Groupie
Posts: 64
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:21 pm
Location: Finland
Contact:

Post by Artic circle »

That sounds good :) i have mixed ro-water and tap-water so that the conductivity is 120 mS and they all have started to spawn.

Good luck!

Pasi
smithrc
Moderator
Posts: 862
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Contact:

Post by smithrc »

how can I measure conductivity?
Click For Our Plecs
[url=http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/gallery/plecs][img]http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/assorted/PlecSig_sm.jpg[/img][/url]
User avatar
Artic circle
Groupie
Posts: 64
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:21 pm
Location: Finland
Contact:

Post by Artic circle »

I have Hanna's microsiemens meter DIST3 that has worked fine, i have bought it Germany and it costs about 40 euro.
Adam
Moderator
Posts: 1604
Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:50 pm
Location: London, UK

Post by Adam »

Hi smithrc,

Ro water is definately the way to go, you really need to have water with a low conductivity/TDS for things to start happening. I pretty much do as Arctic does with the tap water RO mix.

Arctic, do you find that your PH is stable with a conductivity of 120 ms?
User avatar
Artic circle
Groupie
Posts: 64
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:21 pm
Location: Finland
Contact:

Post by Artic circle »

Hi Adam!

My PH is stable, i didn't change water at four days and it was same when i started, 7.1

Our water conductivity at the tap water is about 500mS, i think that it the reason why the ph stay stable.
Adam
Moderator
Posts: 1604
Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:50 pm
Location: London, UK

Post by Adam »

Cheers for the info Arctic. :wink:

My conductivity at the tap is upwards of 680mS sometimes as high as 760mS. :shock: With RO tap water mix I reduce it to about 200mS and the PH is stable.

Thanks.
andyj
Groupie
Posts: 76
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:56 pm
Location: Derby, UK

Post by andyj »

smithrc wrote:how can I measure conductivity?
By buying one of these ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 81723&rd=1
andyj
smithrc
Moderator
Posts: 862
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Contact:

Post by smithrc »

so its the same bit og kit for measuring the salinaty in marine setups they :)

I'll be needing one of them anyway :)

Thanks andy (see you friday)
Click For Our Plecs
[url=http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/gallery/plecs][img]http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/assorted/PlecSig_sm.jpg[/img][/url]
Adam
Moderator
Posts: 1604
Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:50 pm
Location: London, UK

Post by Adam »

Hi Andyj and smithrc,

Without getting too technical a conductivity meter will measure how conductive your water is by passing a tiny current between two electrodes. The more dissolved substances in the water the higher the reading, however it will only pickup ions that have either a positive or negative charge. A lot of "neutral" non-charged pollutants/substances such as pesticides and other organic compounds will not be detected. They are still a very useful tool for measuring overall water quality in aquaria but please bear in mind that they do not provide a "true" picture of water quality. A TDS meter is pretty much the same thing as a conductivity meter all it does is convert the microsiemens conductivity reading into parts per million.

It's worth considering a conductivity/TDS meter that has been factory calibrated. Recalibration will then be by pressing a reset button to restore the factory default setting as opposed to messing around with calibration solutions, just a thought.

Adam
smithrc
Moderator
Posts: 862
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Contact:

Post by smithrc »

for £17 all in - I'd get one of them and see how i get on i think.

We've done one 20% RO changes - can I do it again and not worry about anything?

The PH of the RO is a little higher than they are used to at just short of 8. (they are in approx 7.2)

Any tips on feeding - they have gone of cucumber and prawns :(

They are still eating though - JMC catfish pellets go down well.
Click For Our Plecs
[url=http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/gallery/plecs][img]http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/assorted/PlecSig_sm.jpg[/img][/url]
smithrc
Moderator
Posts: 862
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Contact:

Post by smithrc »

I'm going to try cucumber again tonight.

I think I'm going to try and sort out some smaller caves - I only noticed tonight how big they look with the fish in them...
Click For Our Plecs
[url=http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/gallery/plecs][img]http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/assorted/PlecSig_sm.jpg[/img][/url]
smithrc
Moderator
Posts: 862
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Contact:

Post by smithrc »

Hello again - Just thought I'd update the 'progress' so far...

I have still got the 35mm tubes in there but i've been working on getting some smaller caves sorted for them.

They are a lot more active with the temperature higher and are in and out of each others caves a lot.

I've got some beefheart to try them on tonight too :)

I've just done another water change - this time i've used rain water rather than RO - Is this ok?
Click For Our Plecs
[url=http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/gallery/plecs][img]http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/assorted/PlecSig_sm.jpg[/img][/url]
Post Reply