L236's or Not?
L236's or Not?
I recently got three L236's and I wanted to make sure they are infact it.
Here's the best picture I could get of one of females; unfortunately all I had was a Nokia camera phone.
Here's the best picture I could get of one of females; unfortunately all I had was a Nokia camera phone.
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Hi,
regarding this picture it is not possible to say something. If you would force me to guess I would say it is a juvenile L399 or L400.
99,9% of the sold L236 are L399/L400.
Some weeks ago I visited Ingo Seidel. There I saw my first L236 in real ... but I was very disappointed about the colouration and the pattern. I have had much better looking L400 in my tanks.
Do we know what number it was that A.Werner had in his hand as he labeled it as L236? No - we don't!
Sven
regarding this picture it is not possible to say something. If you would force me to guess I would say it is a juvenile L399 or L400.
99,9% of the sold L236 are L399/L400.
Some weeks ago I visited Ingo Seidel. There I saw my first L236 in real ... but I was very disappointed about the colouration and the pattern. I have had much better looking L400 in my tanks.
Do we know what number it was that A.Werner had in his hand as he labeled it as L236? No - we don't!
Sven
Thanks everyone. If the L399/L400 are more attractive than the L236; then is that picture of it on http://l-welse.com mistakenly identified? And I don't mean to be rude, but is the pictures of L236 on http://www.smithrc.f2s.com/ (Sorry Smith ) actually L236?
Hi,
Sven
I wouldn't say that in this way. Of course the L236 shown on l-welse.com from A.Werner is one of the greatest looking plecos we have ever seen. It is important to say that the pictures shows a juvenile one and they loose a bit of their attractiveness when they get older. Even does not every specimen look like the other and the picture shows a very good looking one.Raul-7 wrote:Thanks everyone. If the L399/L400 are more attractive than the L236; then is that picture of it on http://l-welse.com mistakenly identified?
Sven
Thanks again Sven. It seems that the link above isn't working properly, as the pictures aren't loading as they used to.Sven T. wrote:Hi,
I wouldn't say that in this way. Of course the L236 shown on l-welse.com from A.Werner is one of the greatest looking plecos we have ever seen. It is important to say that the pictures shows a juvenile one and they loose a bit of their attractiveness when they get older. Even does not every specimen look like the other and the picture shows a very good looking one.Raul-7 wrote:Thanks everyone. If the L399/L400 are more attractive than the L236; then is that picture of it on http://l-welse.com mistakenly identified?
Sven
Do you mind showing us one of your adult L400's? Please!
Thanks Sven!
One of the juvenile females I have is not as colorful as the other two; she doesn't seem stressed but she (her scales) looks more "armored" compared to the other two. I heard this a characteristic of male L400's, but she isn't hairy at all.
Sven, do you find that they chew on driftwood? How large do they grow (12 or 15cm)?
I really like their behavior because they aren't as skittish as L046 - although I find them nervous whenver they hear the cabinet door open - the good thing is that they don't mind eating during the day if they find food. Not to mention they are very peacful, sometimes my Cherry shrimp actually help clean their pectoral fins without them moving! My only problem with them is that they poop a ton!
One of the juvenile females I have is not as colorful as the other two; she doesn't seem stressed but she (her scales) looks more "armored" compared to the other two. I heard this a characteristic of male L400's, but she isn't hairy at all.
Sven, do you find that they chew on driftwood? How large do they grow (12 or 15cm)?
I really like their behavior because they aren't as skittish as L046 - although I find them nervous whenver they hear the cabinet door open - the good thing is that they don't mind eating during the day if they find food. Not to mention they are very peacful, sometimes my Cherry shrimp actually help clean their pectoral fins without them moving! My only problem with them is that they poop a ton!
Hi Raul,
Sven
it is not (yet) possible to difference sexes on the pattern and the colouration. I had about 50 of them in my hands. There are some differences in pattern but I don't know yet how to describe them and this characteristic does not fit always.Raul-7 wrote:I heard this a characteristic of male L400's, but she isn't hairy at all.
No, they don't. All other Hypancistrus don't too. But what they so is to hide under driftwood so i would always do some driftwood in the tank.Sven, do you find that they chew on driftwood?
I think they will get only 12cm. I saw adult males that had this size. I. Seidel thinks they will get up to 15cm.How large do they grow (12 or 15cm)?
I share your opinion over their behavior. They are really majestic. It's a real pitty that I had to sell my group.I really like their behavior because they aren't as skittish as L046 - although I find them nervous whenver they hear the cabinet door open - the good thing is that they don't mind eating during the day if they find food. Not to mention they are very peacful, sometimes my Cherry shrimp actually help clean their pectoral fins without them moving! My only problem with them is that they poop a ton!
Sven